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Elon Musk is Wrong, Hydrogen Cars are the Future, Not Tesla Electric Cars

Elon Musk is Wrong, Hydrogen Cars are the Future, Not Tesla Electric Cars


rev up your engines, today I’m gonna be
telling you the truth about hydrogen cars, now to begin once you have to
realize it there’s two types of hydrogen cars, there are cars that burn hydrogen
in an engine to propel the car along and there are fuel cell cars, that use the
hydrogen in a fuel cell to generate electricity and the cars are actually
electric cars with electric motors, now the United States Air Force is presently
experimenting with both types of vehicles in Hawaii, they’re creating
their hydrogen through electrolysis they can make it out of seawater it’s no big
deal it’s just takes energy and realized that the first type of hydrogen car, a
car that just burns hydrogen gas is no different than many cars people have
today where they run off of natural gas,
compressed natural gas, you see a lot of city buses nowadays in big cities that
say running on clean natural gas, you can actually run any internal combustion
engine off of hydrogen if you really want to, it’s nothing to convert this old
Celica to run on natural gas or on hydrogen, it’s actually a lot more
efficient than using gasoline, the gasoline has to be sprayed to make a
vapor to burn the gas is already a gas it just added it and ignite it and away
you go the only problem with converting stuff
to run on gas, either natural gas or hydrogen is, you have to store the stuff and
you need very good safe containers now they’re using a lot of carbon
fiber-reinforced tanks on the experimental ones that’s the big hassle
is, you gotta store the gas somewhere and the range is a lot less than the tank of
gasoline because hey you’d have to have a gigantic storage tank to go 400 miles,
where a small gas tank and a small engine could easily do that, now if you
did turn your car into a hydrogen burning car,
it actually would pollute less it would last longer, it runs more efficiently, but
there is a hassle getting the hydrogen gas of course, because as you can see on
the dots of this map, there are only 270 for hydrogen refueling stations in the
entire planet, so in this respect you’d be
better converting your car to natural gas, quite a few people all over the
world have, there’s some areas where natural gas is really cheap, so a lot of
people converted their vehicles to run on natural gas, turning it into hydrogen
would be kind of foolish because you’ve got no place to buy the hydrogen from,
now the second type of hydrogen car are what people normally think about,
it’s the hydrogen fuel-cell cars they take the hydrogen gas, they run it
through a fuel cell which turns it into electricity, which runs the electric
motor on a electric car, so these are just electric cars that don’t need
batteries to run them, they use a fuel cell, there’s actually one out now here
it is it’s called the Toyota Mirai and you can actually lease one today, at
least in California there are a few hydrogen stations there and you fill it
up pretty much like you do a regular car just takes a few minutes, and that fast
refueling is one reason I think if electric cars ever become the norm, it’ll
be a long way in the future, but if they do the hydrogen fuel cell cars are
actually a much better idea than a car that has a giant battery to run an
electric motor, and that’s for two main reasons, one there’s only a limited
amount of lithium in the world there’s probably not enough to make the giant
lithium batteries for hundreds of millions of people to drive electric
cars, and it’s always gonna take a reasonably long amount of time to
recharge an electric car battery the faster they go, the bigger they are
the longer it takes to recharge the batteries, if you’ve got just a normal
112 plug in your house and you got a big Tesla it can take three and a half days to
charge that battery up and even at one of those Tesla super stations, if you’re
almost out of electricity it’s going to take you almost an hour to charge it
back up, and if there’s hundreds of people are waiting to charge up their
battery hey, it’s going to take hours and hours and hours, people won’t stand for
that, now the hydrogen fuel cell car of course is a non polluting vehicle, the
hydrogen goes in, out comes water vapor and electricity, so they don’t pollute
the air at all they’re the cleanest vehicle you can get your hands on, but of
course there’s a problem of getting a hydrogen, it would take a massive
paradigm shift in our society to move from an oil base to
economy to one that’s based on creating hydrogen, now it’s not that there isn’t
any hydrogen, the oceans full of h2o it can be turned from electrolysis into
hydrogen and oxygen and all the gases can be used in commercial processes or
oxygen for medical processes, it just takes energy, so if they wanted to make
giant solar plants that turned water into hydrogen and oxygen, it’d be kind of
stupid to use coal or gas or oil to burn that to create it and be kind of
counterproductive, but if you really wanted to change the paradigm of society
to non polluting, it can be done with enough money, and who knows what the
future will bring, but really if they do want to create the hydrogen, we can run
the cars we already have on it, it’s nothing to convert it and then as time
goes on and these things get old and all fall apart, they could switch to fuel
cell cars it would run on the same hydrogen, and like anything else it’s
just a matter of production scale if they started mass-producing fuel cells
that run on hydrogen and create electricity,
hey they will get cheaper and cheaper we’re with the all-electric car that has
a lithium battery, since there’s a limited supply of lithium on the planet,
hey it might not even be feasible that there would be enough lithium to make
enough batteries to run the things, but of course everything in our modern society
is capitalist, and since the price of gas is really low now, Toyota seemed to come
out with their hydrogen fuel cell car at the wrong time economically, because gas
is cheap so people don’t really care, but as oil supplies dwindle down, if they
want to make hydrogen from seawater and run cars that use hydrogen fuel cells,
hey that sounds like the better idea to me then cars with lithium batteries,
cause as I said the fuel cells don’t pollute at all, they just put out water
vapor and since you don’t need to lithium, there’s no problem about not having
the materials to build the stuff with, so now you know a little bit more about
hydrogen cars and what’s actually going on out there, who knows what the future is
going to bring but, hey my bet would be on fuel cell cars instead, and the oil
companies yeah they’dprobably fight tooth and nail but really, they’re businessmen
and if they see finally the oil is running out or the earth is heating up
too much they can switch all their money into doing fuel cells instead, hey
look at World War 2 in Detroit, they went for making cars to making tanks and
fighter planes, just like that so they could give up with their oil refineries
and start making hydrogen instead if I really wanted to, so if you never want to
miss another one of my new car repair videos, remember to ring that Bell!

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100 thoughts on “Elon Musk is Wrong, Hydrogen Cars are the Future, Not Tesla Electric Cars

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  2. Hydrogen and electric car technology are still in their infancy compared to the MUCH more mature and developed gasoline combustion technology, but given a bit of time and a energy crisis for gas, and the BIG money executives and REAL big brain eggheads will switch focus.

  3. They are going to electric cars but you make some excellent points about the lithium batteries and the finite amount of lithium in the world today

  4. There's an effort underway in the UK to use hydrogen as a heating fuel, suggesting it would be possible to fill up in one's garage.

  5. Hey scotty,great vid.didnt they do experimental cars years ago with feric iron pellets in the tanks to make obviously explosive hydrogen( heelllo Hindenburg] less volitale? Whatevet happened there.? Let me make a guess…big oil & greed.just my 2 cents.

  6. I totally agree about Hydrogen, but if you liquidise it and warm as it leaves the high pressure store to return to gas, get better range. One thing is lower lubricity and cooling with gases, so needs a good oil. My Alphikar concept was designed over 30 years ago to run on hydrogen so it is hardly a new idea. The amphibious version and the submercible version, of course, would both run in their own fuel at some time in their use, the sea water can be electrolysed on board. I also toyed with a closed cycle engine (long range torpedo) and aa idea borrowed from steamers a compounded engine with condenser and recycled fuel for gas turbine aircraft. Both Tupolvev and Antonov tried Hydrogen power in liner sized aircraft in the Soviet era but Russia preferred oil sales?

  7. Hydrogen Combustion engines are completely as inefficient as combustion engines the most cost effective way to use hydrogen is fuel cells

  8. Musk has proven himself to be wrong about a great many things.

    He comes across as a self important, egotistical tool. Which might be fine if he could actually back it up….. but so far he has not at all.

  9. Sorry Scotty you are wrong about this one,hydrogen cars are expensive and more polluting than traditional ice engines which is already proved.

  10. Wouldn't we eventually run out of water, or destabilize nature's balance if we start fueling millions of cars every year on hydrogen? Is that a not a big deal?

  11. You are so right. Hydrogen seems to be (according to scientists) the most abundant element in the universe. When you combust it the by-product is water! I believe it is inevitable that we either convert to hydrogen, or miss out on the single most responsible choice for fuel known to mankind.

  12. well, argentina is full of LNG powered cars, they replace the gas tanks with LNG cylinders or but LNG cylinders in the boots, I think around 40% of cars there now run on LNG?

  13. Sounds good, does not work. The hydrogen penetrates through common materials, some metals might create alloys with hydrogen and change its physical properties.
    Even fuels cells needs expansive metals like zirconium or yridium. They do not reduce all hydrogen and you just cannot let hydrogen go out of engine because of its explosivity. FC has its working temperature, so you have to preheat the cell up to ie. 300 deg C to get it work. Their elektrods also require pure fuel, free of poisons. ETC… I think the best option is not in changing engines, but in the way we create the fuel. We should stop mining it and start get it from the air, like nuclear power driven reduction station of air CO2 or something like this.

  14. Got a question… how come they don't build electric cars that can recharge themselves … there must be a way

  15. First they have to make it, then store it, then transport it. Sounds expensive. Why go through all that trouble when you can just use with electricty in your home or traveling.

  16. You're all wrong. The engine of the future is the fluzzo capacitor, I have it installed on my DeLorean. Rev up the time!

  17. Your one mistake is that greed controls progress in this nation. We don't first change and then greed steps in, it's the other way around. Progress occurs after the greed has figured out how to make fortunes, only then do we get a choice.

  18. You are clearly out of your wheelhouse. The round trip efficiency of electrolysis and fuel cells is much lower than a battery, making it much more expensive per mile. I can charge my Model 3 in my house, which is much more convenient than going to a hydrogen fueling station, and there isn't even 1 in Ohio. There is plenty of Lithium. The performance is better too. Hydrogen fuel cells might find a use somewhere, but it won't be in cars.

  19. Sounds like the hydrogen would have to be an on demand type of system for it to be economical. Electricity is going to easier and safer to generate with thorium reactors, which are working in labs. They produce very little waste and do not have the possibility of meltdowns.

  20. FALSE. Battery technology is going away from Lithium ion toward solid state, which can charge almost instantly and can drive further.

  21. This is the first time that scotty has been misinformed about something I think.
    hydrogen cars– Hydrogen gas require a lot of ELECTRICITY to make. wheich we use to power.. electric cells? this is a waste. this is bad.
    Elon musk argues that electric cars cut out this crappy middleman.
    Hydrogen fuel cell cars are not good.

  22. Hydrogen is too expensive, you also loose half of the power through electrolysis before it even gets into your car

  23. GREECE DID THIS TO ALL TAXI CABS WHICH ALL RUN ON NATURUAL GAS BUT THERES A SWITCH YOU CAN TURN AND THE IT RUNS ON GASOLINE

  24. I once drove a car that was converted to run on lpg instead of gasoline and man it was crap it had no power, no torque and if you lugged it accidentaly it was popping and making a terrible gas smell

  25. I see that 4,3k tesla famboises disliked this video
    i love the idea of hydrogen fuel cells, but the issue is that currently they make hydrogen from methane which pollutes even more than just a gasoline car so the oil companies can stay in power

  26. We have had the tech for over 60 years to use things like thorium (found in dirt/sand, low/no emissions) or fuel cells to power every home in the world for almost free, but where is the profit and tax revenue in saving the planet? Corp and Gov greed at the cost of world destruction. Meanwhile the sheep text on.

  27. If graphene batteries ever achieve their supposed potential, nobody will need lithium batteries because graphene will be lighter, cheaper, safer, lasts a LOT longer, and be about 5 times more powerful. They'll pretty much replace almost all batteries on the planet. They'll also charge 3 to 5 times as fast.

  28. Did it not occure to you to produce the H2 at home, using your solar PV source and compressing it for storage and feul for your HFCE house and car? Or you think this would ruin a lot of investments by the big companies who want to do it for you, for their profit?
    So the real problem is not that H2 would not be ideal or we cold not get a hold of it, but that it has a low energy density by volume, therefor we need to compress it, and take advantage that 1 kg H2 has much more energy than gasoline or batteries! However, for that we need graphene tanks, which is not yet good or cheap, this is the main condition holding back the use of H2!

  29. Graphene Batteries will be a game changer. If not for the battery tech coming down the pike, Scotty would be right.

  30. Let me summarize it for yall. Here is a guy that named his cars after the greatest inventor to ever walk the earth, tesla and says Thomas Edison is his hero.

  31. Electric cars might have a lithium problem if they're widely adopted, but fuel cells are using platinum as a catalyst.

  32. 0:38 Hydrogen through electrolysis… takes LOTS of energy. Waaaay too uneconomical, so the manufacturers of the hydrogen engines have been using hydrogen sourced from natural gas. This means that the process is not green because it is using a fossil fuel which intern puts carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. So therefore Elon Musk was correct.

  33. Why don't people realize that water is also a green house gas? We would be converting from CO2 to H2O and solve practically nothing towards atmospheric pollution and global warming.

  34. Amen brother, battery technology won't be where they need to be for another 100 years…if then…considering how little they've changed in the last hundred.

  35. Hydrogen cars are a million times more efficient and less polluting. Lithium rigging is worse than coal so canceling this battery car will end.

  36. It takes more energy to break the molecular bond of water to separate the hydrogen and oxygen than you get back from using the hydrogen as an energy source. Hydrogen also doesn’t exist on earth in its free state. Therefore, the so-called hydrogen economy is a net energy consumer. There’s no way around the science.

  37. Real engineering made a very good point of the half efficiency for producing and transporting hydrogen through electricity (in best case scenario) compared to sending electricity to the grid to charge electric cars. This is definitely the biggest reason not to use hydrogen. It’s a fundamentally more wasteful tech that can’t be easily fixed. I think instead the industry should focus on better battery tech that improves on less lithium use and faster charging.

  38. You're so dumb. I can see the future. Lithium-ion batteries are dead, and nobody want to drive a Hydrogen car that will explode on crash.
    The future will be Metal-air battery. Silicon-air 32 MJ/kg, Magnesium 24 MJ/kg, & Iron-air 4.9 MJ/kg have way more capacity than Li-ion only 0.8 MJ/kg. And iron, silicon, & magnesium is significantly cheaper than lithium. Especially Magnesium does not exhibit dentrite formation, so it can be used for very long time (>50 years)!.

  39. The previous generations are remembered for their world wars. Our generation will be remembered for how we chose to respond to climate change.

  40. I just watched this for a good laugh. He thinks we have to advance technology to hydrogen but we'll never advance battery technology away from lithium? Guess he also thought we'd use nickel cadmium forever too.

  41. There is more Lithium than Copper, Nickel or Zinc in the earth's crust;- but doesn't matter because we already clicked …

  42. Supporting what he said at 3:20 Fun fact: we don't have access to a whole lot of lithium on Earth, but it's many times harder to find in space (something to do with the crazy conditions required to form it in the first place, I don't understand the details). BEVs don't actually make sense environmentally, which is something we'll see once the concept Really catches on. Hydrogen is far more abundant, we just need to figure out sustainable ways of producing it affordably and at scale.

  43. This dude doesn't even have a degree or studied Engineering. Why would anyone listens to this theories outside of being a mechanic is beyond me.

  44. We need electric cars in order to force every corporation to use better and better batteries.
    Single most important invention is battery.

  45. that Alex Autos guy youtuber, actually owns a hydrogen car himself, so he obviously knows something we know don´t? Will people just end up buying used Leafs until 2022 then jump straight over electric to hydrogen?

  46. i studied fuel cells for over a year. A shitty technology. They are really annoying with humidity, temperature, their membrame break, they are stupid expensive, fuel cells are much harder to do, they are super hard to fix and are not that relible, thats why hydrogen cars are so rare. Eletrolisis is extremely inefficient, like 20-40%. You dont need a battery, study about super capacitators. Fuel cells are stupid, I swear as a guy that studied them for a year

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