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Car sale nightmare: Police ticket driver for car she no longer owns

Car sale nightmare: Police ticket driver for car she no longer owns


WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR CAR AFTER YOU TRADE IT IN TO A DEALERSHIP? NOT YOUR PROBLEM… RIGHT? WELL…THAT ISN )T THE CASE FOR AN ALBUQUERQUE WOMAN. A CAR SHE (THOUGHT ( SHE GOT RID OF … NOW HAS THE POLICE AND M- V-D AFTER HER FOR PROBLEMS.. SHE DIDN )T CAUSE. NEWS 13 )S GABRIELLE BURKHART IS ON SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT. “…NATS: traffic…” WHEN YOU SELL A CAR… “…quick nats…” THERE )S NO LOOKING BACK. “…Susan Sanders/Sold Vehicle it was very easy we just traded it in, got a new car…” BUT SUSAN SANDERS SAYS A FAMILY SUV SHE AND HER HUSBAND SOLD NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO… HAS NOW COME BACK TO HAUNT HER. “…Susan Sanders/Sold Vehicle extremely frustrating…” “…Susan Sanders/Sold Vehicle Reporter: did you ever feel like you could get a clear answer from anyone? Sanders: No. I )ve been passed around…” IN NOVEMBER 2015 – SHE TRADED IN HER 2002 FORD EXPLORER TO RELIABLE NISSAN ON COORS IN NORTHWEST ALBUQUERQUE. SHE FILLED OUT THE PROPER PAPERWORK … SIGNED OVER THE TITLE… AND REMOVED THE OLD LICENSE PLATE. SANDERS EVEN FILED A NOTICE OF SALE WITH M-V-D FOR THE EXPLORER. SHE HAD A NEW CAR – AND ALL WAS WELL. A YEAR AND A HALF LATER — IN APRIL — SHE FOUND OUT SHE WAS WRONG. “…Susan Sanders we got a call from APD in the middle of the night saying they had our car…” SHE THOUGHT THAT COULDN )T BE — BECAUSE (HER ( NEW CAR WAS SITTING IN THE DRIVEWAY. THEN SHE REALIZED POLICE WERE ASKING ABOUT HER OLD FORD EXPLORER. “…Susan Sanders they thought that our car had been stolen and we explained to them that we had traded it in, and they said that the VIN number traced it back to us that we were the current owners…” “…Gabrielle Burkhart Sanders was baffled. While her old SUV had been out of sight and out of mind — we )ve learned it was sure raising eyebrows on this block in northeast Albuquerque…” “…Anne Uhring/Albuquerque Resident for a month it was the talk of the neighborhood…” SANDERS SNAPPED THESE PHOTOS OF THE FORD EXPLORER – WHERE POLICE SAY IT SAT ABANDONED. “…Susan Sanders it was all beat up…” ANNE UHRING SAYS IT WAS PARKED OUTSIDE HER HOUSE FOR WEEKS. “…Anne Uhring we thought it was a stolen vehicle…” NEIGHBORS SPOTTED DIFFERENT PEOPLE LOADING AND UNLOADING PROPERTY FROM THE EXPLORER. SAYING THEY )D COME UP WITH EXCUSES FOR NOT DRIVING IT AWAY. “…Anne Uhring/Neighbor they only had one key and the guy they lent it to went to jail…” “…Andrew Crofton/Neighbor the thing was all torn up inside, the door knobs had been ripped open off basically…” WORRIED IT COULD BE INVOLVED IN CRIME… NEIGHBORS CALLED 311 AND POLICE WOULD COME OUT – LEAVING TICKETS ON THE S-U-V. “…Anne Uhring/Albuquerque Resident you don )t know what the car is being used for and why it was there and it never had a plate on it. Reporter: not even dealer plates? Anne: No plate at all…” NO ONE KNEW (WHO ( OWNED THE EXPLORER. INCLUDING THE POLICE. BUT IN MAY – SANDERS GOT A CITATION IN THE MAIL FOR UNPAID PARKING TICKETS… 60-DOLLARS WORTH. AND IF SHE DOESN )T PAY SOON, THE CITY WARNED – THOSE FINES WILL GO UP AND UP. “…Susan Sanders what )s going on? (chuckles (…” M-V-D RECORDS SHOW SANDERS WAS THE LAST TO REGISTER THE EXPLORER WITH THE STATE. SO HER INFORMATION CAME UP WHEN POLICE CHECKED THE VIN NUMBER IN THE NATIONAL DATABASE. “…Officer Fred Duran/Albuquerque Police Dept. really our hands are tied because we have to go off the information that the NCIC database is showing and if it shows still registered under the old owner, that )s who the citation is gonna go to…” SANDERS WENT TO METRO COURT — AND THE TICKETS WERE DISMISSED. BUT IT DIDN )T FIX THE PROBLEM. SHE WENT BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN A-P-D AND THE M-V-D… “…quick nats: now serving )237 )…” TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY HER NAME WAS STILL ATTACHED TO A CAR SHE TRADED INTO A DEALERSHIP. WE ASKED M-V-D THE SAME THING. “…Ben Cloutier/Dir. Communications NM Taxation & Revenue Dept. in our system it shows that Mrs. Sanders sold the vehicle to Reliable Nissan…” “…Ben Cloutier at that point we don )t have any records beyond that…” WE )VE LEARNED RELIABLE SENT THE EXPLORER TO MANHEIM AUTO AUCTION WHERE IT WAS SOLD LESS THAN TWO WEEKS LATER. WHO BOUGHT IT AT AUCTION – IS UNCLEAR. SINCE IT )S (NOT ( THE RESPONSIBILITY OF RELIABLE OR THE AUCTION HOUSE TO MAKE SURE A CAR IS REGISTERED. “…Ben Cloutier if the vehicle )s been sold it )s up to the next owner to register that vehicle, but that hasn )t occurred…” BUT UNLESS SOMEONE IS CAUGHT (DRIVING A VEHICLE WITHOUT CURRENT REGISTRATION — IT )S A LAW THAT )S TOUGH TO ENFORCE. LEAVING SANDERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MESS. “…Susan Sanders God forbid something should happen to someone by this car and it )s still registered in my name…” FOR NOW, M-V-D SAYS IT HAS PROVIDED RECORDS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT SHOW SANDERS NO LONGER OWNS THE EXPLORER. “…Susan Sanders bottom line I want this car out of my name…” AFTER OUR INTERVIEW – SANDERS RECEIVED (ANOTHER LETTER… THIS TIME FROM M-V-D SAYING A LIEN HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE EXPLORER FOR TOWING FEES. M-V-D SAYS IF SHE DOESN )T PAY — THE TOW COMPANY WILL SIMPLY ASSUME SHE HAS NO INTEREST IN THE CAR. SOMETHING SHE )S BEEN TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE FOR MONTHS. ON SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT, GABRIELLE BURKHART, KRQE NEWS 13. IN SOME CASES – DEALERSHIPS WILL TAKE CARE OF REGISRATION AND TITLING WHEN SOMEONE BUYS A USED CAR, BUT IN NEW MEXICO — THEY DON )T HAVE TO. WE )VE POSTED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW WHEN YOU BUY AND SELL A CAR — ONLINE AND OUR KRQE NEWS APP. ADLIB TOSS TO WEATHER TONIGHT…Partly cloudy. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the

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100 thoughts on “Car sale nightmare: Police ticket driver for car she no longer owns

  1. not important the transaction was obviously voided by the dealer ship someone pocketed the fee wtf is the media doing with there time

  2. I would of got the car back, haha, and then rergistered it and paid the parking tickets and sold it again if it's legally my problem.

  3. I had a friend who got into Meth in the 1990's. I tried helping her and I gave her my Geo Metro and told her to turn the title over. She didn't, but I did turn in the report of sale. It saved me a bunch of parking tickets etc. The city of Seattle tried making me pay, but my Report Of Sale saved me.

  4. I mean, there is an easy solution, the police just understanding the situation and NOT ticketing for a car she doesn't own. But thank goodness these "thin blue line" followers are interested in cith revenue.

  5. Isn’t that a good thing? Let her pay a ticket and keep the car gotta be less expensive than buying it straight up

  6. To the people who called the cops: THAT VEHICLE WAS TRADED IN BY THE ORIGINAL OWNER! LEAVE THE POOR WOMAN ALONE!

  7. To the MVD: Ms. Sanders traded that Ford Explorer in for a new vehicle! She should NOT be held responsible for anything! LEAVE HER ALONE!

  8. New Mexico must be a Drug runner paradise imagine how often someone trades in car wiyh6 valid plates and registration and get brought at auction still valid to drive smh

  9. This is why when i sell a used car i get them to meet me at the dmv and make them register it in fornt of me

  10. How the fuck can a dealer send a car to a action not make sure is out of the her name leavingn themm open to,liability

  11. At 2mins and 20 something secs in they say there was no tags on it but in the pictures you can see the tags are blurred I'm puzzled?

  12. This story is exactly why government regulations are important. In my state the dealer cant sell or auction a car until after they transfer the title to themselves. This protects the seller and ensures that the dealer acts responsibly. T

    he stupid and harmful part of this story was that because of a lack of regulation the woman was stuck taking care of all of this herself. She has no real remedy to fix this mess other than to go to court and contest every stupid fine and ticket. The polices attitude in this case is ridiculous. They should have behaved better towards a citizen.

  13. I guess if legally the car is still hers, she should pay the towing feels, retake possession of the truck and resell it.

  14. Ont canada requires you buy a kit from the transportation dept showing who owned the vehicle priors and if any violations or liens on it left.

  15. But… She has a bill of sale made out to the car dealership that is dated after she registered the car so what the hell?

  16. So they know the vehicle was sold to Reliable Nissan. That means Reliable Nissan is the last known owner of the Explorer, not the people who traded in the car. Why hasn't the dealership corrected the records at the license bureau?

  17. Basically, car was traded in, likely got sent to a smaller dealership or to a junkyard because it wasn't worth much. Ended up in some shady peoples hands, they fucked it up over a period of 2 years while never registering the vehicle, likely using a random old plate of theirs they had lying around.

  18. I sold a Saturn a while back ago, the guy who purchased it took him 7 months to register in his name. It was a pain. Next time I sell.a vehicle, were doing it in a AAA office where the new owner registers the damn car in his/her name.

  19. It happened to me I trade it with Volkswagen, after long talks they finally left me alone ,I didn't pay any tickets but it was a waste of my time to talk over and over and over.

  20. How is it your not able to take the dealer to court? I know in Canada you trade in a car That dealer must register the car. They are held accountable for anything after you sign the paper Any fines liens whatever To the new buyer You can not own the car untill you have a safety cert, Emission test and Used car package which shows all owners of the car And any reported / claimed crashes and liens with dates
    I worked as a private investigator And could track a persons name and address if i had a plate number simple by paying for a used car package ..They changed that. Now you need that title and E-test and safety first

  21. THE STATE IS GUILTY OF DERELICTION OF SERVANTUDE RESPONSIBILITY IS IN THIS ESCOTERIC FAULT AND OWES HERE A BADGERING HARRASSMENT CHARGE FINE OF $1,500.00 PLUS INTEREST.

  22. I once traded a car in for a truck at my local dodge dealer and then got papers to register the car 8 months later.   sounds like the dealer was working the system to save some money.

  23. dad sold a car to a dood he never registered it. we've been getting his tickets and have no idea where he lives. Dmv is no help; we even gave it to him for dirt cheap. people are assholes.

  24. Manheim 😂 I've dropped off and picked up vehicles to them before and the majority of the time they can't tell their head from their ass. Fyi….I'm talking about the Manheim in Ontario

  25. This Happening to my aunt she To drive a 2005 Ford Explorer advance trac and she signed it over got a 2018 Nissan rouge And now she’s getting toll Road tickets in Austin tx and people are driving it illegally

  26. Sounds like Morons working for the Car Dealership and the Cops. If something happened like this to Me I would have the News Crew and the Police follow me to the scrap yard where I would put it in the car shredder.

  27. This vehicle was obvious ly being used as a storage depot for crimanal activity. Thete is a hole in the law that needs to be plugged.

  28. that happens to my mom someone crash her old car that she sold 5 years ago the person who crash killed 2 people he ran away on feet mom was arrested she was innocent we sued the goverment for damage and false acusation we sued the dealer that did not do the paper work now we rich

  29. Dealer middle man Tax scam
    leave is someone else's name and collect money off the sale.. with out reporting correct profits

  30. Fuck the police, their hands are not tied. They just need to do something called an "investigation". They are being lazy and it should be criminal to write bogus tickets like that. They could have made 2 phone calls to track it to the auction then dealt with them.

  31. Here is a fact I have not done it and I'm sure most don't, don't sell anything without signing the title and (DATE) it then make a copy of it, I also make out a bill of sale caught the original at the License office years ago and made copies and use it for everything buyer and you signs it dated and I will not sell a Car or whatever to somebody who will not provide a driver's license. It cost a friend of mine thousands in Lawyer fees when he sold a car to a person without a Licence and hit another Car and killed somebody. Just saying it isn't the 1950s any more.

  32. Bad reporting, the cop at 2:55 saying their hands are tied. The reporter knows the lady filled out the proper paperwork, so why didn't the reporter grill the cop and ask him if she has filled out the proper paperwork, why are they still going after her, when the cops should be going after either the auction company, or the car dealership. Because probably the reporter is still too young to call cops out on their falsehoods and bullshit.

  33. Wait soooo technically she could go pick up the SUV, pay a few parking tickets then go and resale the whole car to a dealer again? I’m failing to see how this is a bad thing 😂 that’s free money people 😂😂

  34. Once you release the title and lien to another party (Reliable Nissan) the car is no longer your responsibility.

    The car become property of Reliable Nissan who in turned sold it at action. Apparently, Reliable Nissan (now know as unReliable Nissan) did not register the car.

  35. sounds like the dealership should have done something i mean if it was sold why is she still getting letters and crap about the car?

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