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5 Ways Electric Cars Outperform Gas Powered Cars

5 Ways Electric Cars Outperform Gas Powered Cars

hello everyone and welcome to the fifth and final episode of a series I’ve partnered with formula II to put together talking about electric car technology now in this video we’re going to be talking about five performance advantages of electric vehicles a lot of people talk about the efficiency and sustainable benefits of electric cars I find the performance advantages a bit more interesting so that’s what we’re going to be talking about here now the first thing we’re going to discuss is instant peak torque and I created a video on why this is so if you’re curious about that I’ll have a link in the video description but essentially an electric car you put your foot down flat and you’re going to get immediate peak torque and actually you know depending on how you tune that vehicle you’re going to get that torque from just zero rpm so amazing for street driving so in street driving which is what most of us do you know you always need to accelerate from a stop that happens all the time they’re always at very low speeds and in these low speeds electric vehicles when they’re at low rpm will always have peak torque available depending on how they’re tuned and as a result it makes them quite fun to drive very cool feature of electric cars excellent acceleration and then as you start to get into those higher rpms and higher vehicle speeds that torque will start to taper off number two no complex transmissions and this actually goes back to the first video I did in this series with Formula e talking about why you don’t need multiple gears in electric vehicles so you can have a very simple setup in Formula e they have the battery sends power to a motor motor to a transmission but it can be just a single gear from that gear to a differential and then to the driven wheels you could make it even simpler than that and just have your motor a gear reduction and then have it go to a driven wheel and have individual motors for each wheel now the advantages of not having this complex transmission only using one gear things like that of course you’re going to save weight it’s gonna save on complexity and as a result you know reliability is going to be better if you don’t have a complex transmission shift time also you don’t have to shift gears so you save on shift time you know this kind of goes back to the debate between dual clutch transmissions and manual transmissions often manual transmissions are more fun to drive but all of the supercars are tending to go towards things like dual clutch transmissions because they’re faster the shift time is less so the cars end up being quicker well V’s take this to the next extreme level and there is no shifting uh so it’s as fast as it could possibly get for the given power number three I want to talk about throttle control and I think this one is particularly special about electric vehicles because when you give it 50% throttle in electric vehicle you get 50% power you can tune that to match exactly and get exactly what you asked for very different from driving a turbocharged car you may give it 50% and get a hundred percent power you may give it 50% and get less than that it can be tuned very differently and it’s much more challenging with internal combustion engines rather than just providing 50% power also even with naturally aspirated engines if you think about how throttle bodies work in these vehicles you’re going to have a difference and how much torque you get in throttle as you open it so let’s say it’s open five percent and you open it to 15 percent well now you have three times the area for air to flow through that throttle so you’re going to notice a significant increase in torque versus if you’re at ninety percent and you increase another ten percent similar to our previous from five to fifteen percent you’re only going to have a one point one one times increase in how much area you have in addition to allow for air flow so the torque increase won’t be as great from 90 to 100 as it is from five to fifteen percent so it’s interesting the way that these are tuned you know mechanical does have a nice feel to it but with an electric vehicle you can get exactly what you asked for with that throttle pedal because you can choose exactly how much power you want it to deliver at any given position versus internal combustion engines which are more sensitive when you’re at low partial throttle now number four is no brake fade and it’s not to say that you could never have brake fade in an electric vehicle but it’s far less likely and the reason is is because you can regenerate that energy and braking and send it back to the battery rather than using your mechanical brakes to do so so when you slam on the brakes you can use this electric motor turn it into a generator turn that power and recharge your battery rather than just heating up your mechanical brakes this in turn allows you to use smaller brakes less rotating mass less unsprung masses and benefits of reducing the size of those brakes and you’re not as dependent on them they’re going to last longer they won’t be as necessary and you don’t have to worry so much about brake fade in an electric vehicle because you can send that heat into the battery and you simply have to worry about the cooling system for the battery in the moe rather than the braking system and finally we get into battery packaging and yes batteries are pretty heavy so that’s a bit of a disadvantage for electric vehicles but it’s very flexible where you can put this battery so in Formula e they locate it within the center behind the driver so it’s a nice central location that allows for a good weight distribution and also means that the car has a low polar moment of inertia basically that just means it’s very agile it doesn’t resist turning much but again this is something very flexible so you could just take a battery and make it very flat and wide and put it along the bottom of the car have a nice even weight distribution and keep the center of gravity really low and also by having it on the bottom of the car you can help out with cooling and use that airflow underneath the car to help cool that battery so a huge thank you to Formula e for working with me on this five part series if you guys have not yet checked out their YouTube channel I would definitely recommend doing so they’ve got a lot of very cool technical videos that they put up teaching about how cars work I’ll include some links in the video description if you guys have any questions or comments feel free to leave them below thanks for watching

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100 thoughts on “5 Ways Electric Cars Outperform Gas Powered Cars

  1. Bonus Fun Fact: Relating to the throttle control of this segment, electric motors also allow for a much more finely tuned traction control. I know we all like to pretend we're driving heros, but sometimes it's nice to have a computer keep you in check. Often with gas powered cars, this means cutting throttle and intervening with mechanical brakes. With electric motors this can be done much more quickly, and more precisely, and so you can have traction control systems that feel much less intrusive. Hope everyone's having a great day! Consider following the madness on Instagram!

  2. Is it possible to reproduce an engine braking effect in an electric, or do they already do that? I use my engine to control my speed when going down long descents or loose surfaces, so I'm curious if electrics can do something like that as well.

  3. Electric cars DO NOT OUTPERFORM gas powered cars, but electric engines outperform gas engines! We still suck in battery technology compared to gas technology(energy to volume and weight ratio).

  4. But pedal position does not determine throttle position since the 90's. And you can still have a barrel style throttle if you want more linear throttle response. Linearity of throttle response is what the engineers program into the system eversince there are no actuation cables attached to the pedal. And even then you could come up with various cam profiles on the throttle lever to smoothen out the response. However with turbo engines there really is a problem with determining throttle aplication, because of the spool time. And with NA cars you also get diferent torque at diferent revs with occasional torque valleys like the BRZ/gt86.

  5. Hi, It is out of topic but if someone could help me I will appreciate it ! I want to work with cars in future and especially in tuning sector. Now i am first year student in Automotive engineering and I am really confused is that the right place for me? Could someone write something like a path to complete or what i should start to learn, to continue with that course or to do something different. Every information will help me, thanks!

  6. The real problem with electric, that will probably be solved SOMEDAY, is distance you can travel without recharging, and the amount of time to recharge compared to filling a gas tank. I see where some EV's state they can go 200+ miles, then they need an hour or more to recharge. If I am going on a trip of 30 miles, why do I want to add an extra hour or more to that trip.

  7. Electric cars are definitely impressive, no doubt…it's car enthusiasts like myself that will have the hardest time making the transition

  8. While I'm going to stick to gas powered, manual cars for a long while for the sake of fun, I definitely enjoyed this series! Thanks Jason 🙂

  9. EE, I hope u will have posts on a"Free Piston Linear Induction Generator" for use in Series Hybrids or a similar power options. And how HCCI or other more efficient combustion options could be made more practical, Since it both reduces the excess demand and stress on the engine. While increase the control parameter over the things like its valves and pistons including its stroke.
    U seem to focus on more commercially developed applications but the "Free Piston Linear Induction Generator" type of power source seem like the next logical step for Series Hybrids and I'm curious about ur take on it? thx

  10. It's always funny to read someone's bad talk against internal combustion motors in favour of the electric motors. I, too, agree with some of the negative effects of the former, I also like the benefits of the electric car technology, but lets be honest and open our eyes for some not so true facts about using electric motors:

    1. Wrong claim: Electric cars are better for the health. In fact, electric motors produce a vast amount of ionizing radiation that's dangerous for the occupants. It's yet another way to cause cancer to the human body, and sadly, you usually learn about the consequences when it's already too late to cure and save your life. Electric car manufacturers will do everything to make you believe that "there is no proven long-term examination" to confirm the negative health effects of electric motors and batteries. It's a very similar problem just like what happens with the human brain after an extensive use of mobile/cell phones.

    2. Wrong claim: Electric cars don't need cooling system. Electric motors and batteries tend to suddenly overheat over time, especially at high speeds or in regions with a warm climate, so they still require a robust cooling system and maintenance.

    3. Wrong claim: Electric cars don't need transmission. Even though electric cars could work without transmissions, that make them prone to overheating and vastly increased power consumption, because at high speeds electric motors need to rotate at huge RPM, thus they drain the batteries in no time, while meantime they also lose most of their torque and power.

    4. Wrong claim: Electric cars are good for the environment. The electric batteries are very dangerous for the nature, both during the manufacturing process and after their end of life. The pollutions produced during the manufacturing of one car battery package is as dangerous as the ones produced by a car with internal combustion motor driven for over 10 years.

    5. Wrong claim: The driver is always aware about the exact range of his/her electric car. Electric batteries lose a lot of their charge at low temperatures, so they are mostly suitable for use in regions with warm climate. Also, batteries lose charge super quickly after each acceleration, so the total range is much, much lower if your right foot is aggressive on the "gas" pedal. On top of that, most batteries will get their ability for storing energy reduced at 50% after 800-1000 full charging cycles, especially if supercharging is being used. Many people read the overly-optimistic numbers that some electric car manufacturers claim for use in ideal circumstances and will blindly believe that electric cars will always perform like their initial capability and that they are very good for the environment, but that's not the truth.

    Bonus fun fact: Electric cars still have a gas pedal, even though they don't have an internal combustion motor. 😉

  11. Ok, if it outperforms gas powered cars why is formula e car so much slower than f1 car? Or even f2 for that matter?

  12. The next suggested video for me is a PragerU one about electric cars. It's funny seeing garbage content suggested after high quality content like EE

  13. Go Electric !

    I hope Electric Revolution will bring back affordable RWD cars like: Civic, Golf, Corolla, Sylvia, Lancer, Focus etc !

    I love the sound of Petrol Engine, but who listen to their loud engine + exhaust pipe all day?!

    I prefer Good Sound System + RWD as my Ultimate Joyride !!

  14. Everyone likes to tout how environmentally safe and better electric is, but don't want to bring up lithium batteries are a depleting resource that requires it to be mined from the ground just like coal. No one likes to bring up lithium battery disposable isn't feasible at this time and the accumulation over time will end up where we will be polluting the ground with THAT waste as well.

    The issue with recovery & presumed 'recycling' of Lithium today is
    that it costs roughly 5 times as much to recover the Lithium from EV
    batteries as it does to mine & process it.

  15. Range is a problem. But I like the idea of having a gas engine, or diesel, to drive a generator and charge batteries while using electric motors for drive. Diesel trains have been doing this for decades.

  16. Electric cars are coal powered, nuclear powered and hydraulically powered in a sense because That is where their energy comes from. I hope hydrogen powered cars become a reality – then no need to generate electricity to power autos

  17. I think the verdict is still out on using a mult-speed transmission with an electric vehicle because of extra performance and running the motor more often in the peak efficiency R.P.M. example given, UQM using a two speed on the Proterra buses.

  18. What about thermal runaway and battery venting? Could this be a potentially dangerous hazard if/when pushing an electric car to its limits? 🤔

  19. Sorry but 1/4 length GP races on truncated tracks with a car swap and still 95% a battery saving exercise, Even with almost nil aero and low grip street tyres FE is uninteresting.

  20. Hey Jason, could you explain difference in drivetrain design(and calculations 🙂 ) of Front engine Rear wheel drive and Front wheel drive? (if you didnt cover that topic already)

  21. I'd say that having less engine noise is another benefit, or have I missed something? BTW, love your vids – please keep up the excellent work!

  22. Can we have a video on the differences between car and motorcycle engines , or why no cars are available with very high rpm like motorcycle engines pleeeeeease

  23. I still want independent wheel electric drive and on-board diesel battery charger with regen braking, and suspension action energy recovery.. total off grid…., biodiesel fuel and no long recharge stops. In the future, hydrogen fuel..

    Sadly, Formula-E racing is really boring to watch.. technology hotbed yes, but lets add onboard Infernal Combustion ( hybrid) charging and dump the car switching.

  24. I have a non-topic related question, that I hope you can answer! There it is: How does reverse trike's gears work? I mean is there any special mechanism or what? Also, as we know most of the projects are made by sports bikes, then how come the trikes have reverse gear? Please do a video on that! Thank you!

  25. I have a doubt which is some what off the on going topic but i need to know it.
    And that's how to increase the low end torque of a petrol engine.
    Thank you.

  26. Get a used Fiat 500e for $6500.00 and have some fun! I purchased one a few months ago and this car really moves! Its a blast to drive off the line and leaves other cars in the dust.

  27. Electric will never beat gas, not as long as the sounds of gas or petrol engines anyways. I don't care what speed or technology you have, i still see myself driving a 1993 toyota supra with a 2jz under that hood. No matter if they make those illegal.

  28. I have a question but it doesn't apply to this video, it's about the I5 engine. I didn't think you'd see it if I posted it on that video. Why do they make cylinders 2 and 3, 4 and 5 move together and 1 on its own? Wouldn't have 1 and 5, 2 and 4 moving together and having 3 move on its own get rid of the plane imbalance?

  29. looking into and engine swap and regearing. Need to determine a good rpm to cruise at. Is there a way to determine most efficient Rpm range based on HP+Trq curve? Or is there a way to calculate hp/trq loss in a driveline to determine the lowest amount needed to provide good crusing and still leave extra power for hills or wind resistance?

  30. Wouldn't an electronic throttle on a modern ice car be mapped to the engine response rather than having a linear relationship with the butterfly valve on the air intake.

  31. I understand that the "white board" is probably very versatile for illustrating your points and is a cost effective and simple Enough tool for you to justify not ever changing it or rather not upgrading to possible alternatives. However as a long time subscriber I feel the "white board" way of conveying information is outdated and primitive compared to the rest of your channel. Sure it worked great in the early stages of the channel but as your content and production evolved and became higher quality, the whiteboard segments stalled somewhere early on and stopped adapting, and is really just become a let down. There's been little/no change in color schemes, illustrations, even your delivery of the info is the same which is the worst part of these segment. Idk when you started to loudly monotone info. from the white board but its been like that for a long time. I recal your very early white board videos and your delivery is better than it is now. It's like not even you look forward to conveying the info. Your just running through it on a script. Spend the money for a proper upgrade in this aspect and your channel will appear as veteran as it really is.

  32. Any chance you could make a video on the 'C5 Blast Go-Kart Ultimate'. Apparently it gets 0-60mph in 1.5s using four electrically-ducted fan motors?

  33. A great explanation which was interesting, maybe you should present formula E…. Reason I say that follows…
    After being a life long formula 1 fan like my late father the potential for formula E was an exciting prospect.
    I remember a chat my dad and I had about E racing, I said I'd seen the grand prix… He said its like watching paint dry. We laughed and both agreed and therefore never bothered watching.

  34. My favourite grey Wizard – can you do a video on why modern supercars are struggling to reach 200mph? Surely it cant just be down to aero. The McLaren F1 had 625hp and hit 230mph. The 812 SF has 800hp and can only hit 220mph. The Merc GT R has 600 and can't hit 200mph! WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MODERN SUPERCARS?!

  35. Could you maybe make a video about the environmental cost of the production and lifespan of an electric car vs a gas car?

  36. electric cars wont compare to the enjoyment you get from an ic engine vehicle with a 6-speed manual transmission, even if electric is faster. plain and simple.

  37. im never gonna lose my manual transmission, sound of a beautiful engine and enjoyment of working on my car just to go faster, dont equal up to enough to lose all that stuff.

  38. how are those electric cars working in Puerto Rico right now? With the loss of the electrical grid they are just expensive bricks…

  39. You know what, I worked with a guy that had an electric car…
    The dude was always hauling one of those 50 foot extension cords around and asking about where the closest plugin was and if he could use it, like a homeless guy… only for power…
    PASS on the electric car scam. It looks great on paper but in the real world its a whole different story…

  40. I think over the next 10 years you're going to see places like New York City benefit from electric vehicles because you could reduce pollution and a lot of drivers don't really do a lot of driving in Manhattan in terms of overall distance thus you can save a lot of fuel especially a lot of the combustion engines that just sit idling in traffic.

  41. Gas station 5 min, electric charge at home 1 hour to maybe 10 hours. Have an emergency and have a zero charge, can you wait? I like electric but to much computer controlled I don't even like the newer cars just to much between you and the road. I enjoy swinging the ass end of my car around a turn. The problem is fan boys of electric and it can do no wrong, fan boys of gas can do no wrong and you know it is somewhere in between. All that electric must some from somewhere and no sorry solar is not going to cut it at this point. Also why does everyone want someone/something to do all the driving for you at least we still have Motorcycle for a while.

  42. Nice video! So in general what I can conclude is that , beyond a less polution scenario advantage (said by the media everyday), there is also a clear advantage on electric cars which is related to both 1. the car efficiency itself (consumed energy / delivered energy) and 2. the simpler parts assembled on the car. Number 2 is explained on this video and it means less weight, less room to accommodate the parts on the car (so the cars can be smaller) and so on…

  43. Electric power also eliminates the centrifugal force of the motor. This is not as relivent in a car but with things such as the Alta E bikes it makes a huge difference in handling.

  44. One significant advantage of electric is also that they often have more torque than available grip at low speeds, so they benefit hugely from added contact to the ground via a larger diameter and larger width tire. Whereas combustion engines can't really benefit from this as much because the torque is normally lower on average through the RPM range than a comparative electric motor. This is why the tesla that someone stripped out and put on larger diameter tires did quite a lot better with larger diameter wheels.

  45. There is a huge potential in Formula E but as long as there are speed limits, this fan boost crap etc, it unfortunately stays embarrassing and a shame for the world of motor sports

  46. Law of conservation, physics says no matter how many positive reviews electric cars get from fan boys they will never achieve the efficiency of the internal combustion engines unless electricity can be generated at the site where the vehicle is recharged

  47. Electrically powered cars are not environmentally clean. They require charging from some energy source and that means the electrical power grid. Unless you are Iceland, which get its electrical energy from geothermal resources, the extent that a specific nation's electric energy production adds to contaminating the environment and contributing to greenhouse gases is the same ratio that an electrically charged car of that nation in question is adding to the ecological damage.

    It should be added that while Iceland is proud to advertise itself as an environmentally friendly nation with regards to energy production what is not taken into account is the amount of contaminants spewed forth from volcanic activity which happens to be a byproduct of Iceland's seismicity. That same phenomenon is responsible for their geothermal energy.

  48. The gear argument is only truly true (ahem) when you have 'enough' power. Say < 10lb/hp. At that time it's hard/unlikely you have traction (unless you go AWD and sticky tires) with 'more' torque.
    If your EV only produce say 100hp and dragging around 4000lb, then a gear would make sense, as it would accelerate very slowly, and if you DO care about top speed (200mph+) then you might also want to look for a gear, to get enough wheel torque when getting rolling.

    A 500hp EV geared to 200mph won't have enough torque to lose traction, which mean it could have accelerated faster IF it had some gearing. The gearing interval and number would be different, and it's unlikely you would need 10 gears in an EV (except a truck / heavy haul – steep hills), but 2-3 gears would be beneficial. What Tesla have done is to make the motors powerful enough so that they are fighting traction at 0-30, while hitting a reasonable top speed for the US market.

    For the 'just a car' car … yes a gearbox would not really be needed, assuming you keep it below 75, you don't need sub 3sec 0-60, and your battery is too small to sustain speeds over 75mph.

  49. Now all we need to do is improve the awful energy density of batteries at a few hundred kilojoules per kilogram so they can compete against petrol at around 45 megajoules a kilogram.

  50. The fact that electric motors are extremely precise in how they make power, and that EVs have no clutch, gear changes, flywheel, etc., means that EVs are much more predictable at the limits of adhesion. Therefore they are much easier to race.

  51. I love electric cars and I believe they are the future, but I will miss the days of sitting in a garage and repairing an engine or transmission. I like doing cool things with complicated stuff.

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